When you come to think of it that is the secret of most of the great holes all over the world. They all have some kind of a twist. C.B. MACDONALD
USGA Looking At Wind As An Outside Agency On The Greens?
/Tangled Webb During Sudden Death Playoff?
/Golfweek's roundup of Sunday's Zurich Classic finale explains what happened with Webb Simpson's violation at the 15th hole, costing him a stroke that ultimately forced a playoff loss to Bubba Watson.
Simpson made bogey on the 15th hole after calling a one-stroke penalty on himself when his ball oscillated on the green. He was leading by one stroke at the time.
“You get greens like this that are burned out, balls are going to move all over the place,” he said. “It’s unfortunate.”
Simpson made birdie on the first playoff hole, after putting his second shot on the par-5 finishing hole over the green. On the second extra hole, he couldn’t get up-and-down out of a greenside bunker and settled for par.
Afterward, however, the talk focused on the ruling on 15 green.
“You have to call it on yourself in that situation,” he said. “But it stinks that the tournament might have been decided by a rule that’s borderline a good rule. I’m a little disappointed, but I’ll learn from it and hopefully have another chance next week.”
But it's what went on at #18 that caught the eye of several readers here and elsewhere online. Reader BenSeattle wrote:
When (on the first hole of the playoff) Simpson was took a drop from the greenside sprinkler and was allowed to PLACE his ball by hand after the first two rolled down the slope, didn't his first "place" come to rest? I thought it did when he took his hand away but just a second later he picked it up and tried once more. Again, it seemed to turn maybe a half revolution and settle but Simpson quickly picked it up again and then finally placed it in a spot to his liking.
Am I being a stickler or merely uninformed if I should maintain that Simpson picked up a ball that had legally "come to rest," was therefore IN PLAY and therefore Webb should have been penallized for THAT infraction as well?
Reader Red concurred:
After Simpson released his fingers from the ball when placing the first time, it appeared to be at rest. When he lifted it, I immediately thought, "Uh oh." I had a strong feeling that a couple of tour officials became instantly sick to their stomachs But when nothing came of it, I mentally let it go and assumed it MUST have moved..
d. Ball Fails To Come To Rest on Spot
If a ball when placed fails to come to rest on the spot on which it was placed, there is no penalty and the ball must be replaced. If it still fails to come to rest on that spot:
(i) except in a hazard, it must be placed at the nearest spot where it can be placed at rest that is not nearer the hole and not in a hazard; (ii) in a hazard, it must be placed in the hazard at the nearest spot where it can be placed at rest that is not nearer the hole.
If a ball when placed comes to rest on the spot on which it is placed, and it subsequently moves, there is no penalty and the ball must be played as it lies, unless the provisions of any other Rule apply.
The tape would seem to indicate the ball was at rest and perhaps because of nerves or because he thought it was moving, Simpson grabbed it again and tried to place it. I'll leave it to you rules gurus to hash this one out. It doesn't impact the event either way, but it would be good to know!
"I think this puts the integrity of the player back into the game."
/Effective Immediately, Players Ignorant Of Rules Need To Convince Officials They Are Blissfully Ignorant
/"So many people called in, the officials in the rules trailer unplugged the phone. They ignored it."
/Thanks to reader Stuart for catching this from SI's all-player confidential. The topic was "rules warriors."
Van Sickle: This has been a year of weird rules violations. How do you feel about TV viewers reporting potential mistakes?
Henry: I'm not a proponent of fans calling in. Unlike other sports, we don't have an official watching every shot by every player. And not every shot is seen on TV, so some players are under more scrutiny than others. That isn't equal. We need to come up with a solution where a guy isn't disqualified for something he did wrong two days earlier.
Crane: Right. When a guy commits a penalty and doesn't know it, it should be a two-shot penalty, not a disqualification for signing a wrong score. All it's going to take is to DQ a leader everybody wants to see win.
Purdy: I wouldn't mind if the Tour had an 800 number. I wish they'd had that for the Heritage Classic, where Stewart Cink beat me after he moved sand from behind his ball. You can't do that except on a green. So many people called in, the officials in the rules trailer unplugged the phone. They ignored it.
"It wasn't easy to draw a consensus."
/"I don't know why Christina Kim's word was taken more than mine.''
/Brush With HD Rules Violation Files: “I might advise Bubba to stand a bit farther from the ball in the future."
/"It all goes back to this central pillar of the game, that you must sign properly for your own score."
/“If you ask people who really know the rules and understand the ramifications they understand why the R&A and USGA don’t want to change it."
/Rex Hoggard helps us hone in on what will be the dilemma in modifying any rule related to scorecard DQ's. Talking to the USGA's Mike Davis, he writes:
Davis’ answer to the Tour was the same then that it is now – you can’t get there from here. At least not without opening a Pandora’s Box of unforeseen, and seen, problems.
“The whole reason the (Royal & Ancient Golf Club of St. Andrews, which governs the game everywhere else in the world) and USGA have rejected it is there are too many ramifications if you do that,” Davis said.
“If you gave Camilo a four-stroke penalty (instead of an early exit) the problem with that is you may all of a sudden mess up a cut. It could be the U.S. Amateur and you just played 36 holes of stroke play and your entire bracket (for match play) could get messed up. It would be illogical to make a change.”
Tiger: Player's Job To Know Rules; Poulter Wants Rewrite
/Contrasting views expressed today in different parts of the world.
"THERE ARE NO BUNKERS ON THIS COURSE"
/Nice reporting by Paul Casey to Tweet this week's Euro Tour declaration at the Royal Golf Club of Bahrain.
However, as Steve Elling notes on Casey's reporting and the likelihood he snapped the shot in the locker room, it's "where most players doubtlessly ignored it."
Has anyone played this Monty-design who can tell us why they would make this move?